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What You Need To Know About British Airways' New Mixed Fleet

January 27, 2012 at 3:17 PM | by | Comments (11)

How to identify BA's mixed fleet cabin crew: they smile

You may remember the saga. First we were die hard British Airways haters. Then a flight to Vegas changed all that. It was our first experience of BA’s new mixed fleet (in operation for a year now) and boy, did it make a difference. We were entranced. Was it a one off? We prayed not.

Our return flight from Vegas had just as nice a crew (a full review on that another time). But we wanted to wait until we’d taken a couple more flights until we declared an official crush on the new mixed fleet. Now, though, since our trip to Budapest last weekend, we've seen enough to declare ourselves: British Airways appears to have transformed under the mixed fleet crews.

Staff are friendly, smiley. They give the impression of wanting to help you. They give the impression that they are happy to be on board, and that they actually like each other. They are as far away from the dour crew of old as Rick Perry was from knowing his government agencies. They are great. So because they’re great, we’ve got the lowdown on them. Here’s your mixed fleet 101.

Who are they?
In a nutshell, mixed fleet were brought in in 2010, the year of the BA strikes (you know, when you didn’t know whether you’d make it on holiday and the airline was almost brought to its knees). In a way, you could call them scabs – they accepted conditions that BA’s original cabin crew wouldn’t. So they have shorter turnarounds (24 hours in Vegas, for example, instead of a couple of days), have fewer benefits and earn significantly lower salaries.

What’s their background?
Varied. Most of those we’ve spoken to were FAs on other airlines – either budget or smaller. Some are completely new to flying, like the adorable Hayley who looked after us on our way back from Vegas – she used to be a police officer, who’d always harbored dreams of being a flight attendant.

What’s been the reception?
For us, they’ve totally transformed the way we look at British Airways, and have made BA an airline we actively want to fly again. According to the (admittedly biased) mixed fleet FAs, other customers have been equally positive, asking if they’re a charter airline or a codeshare, so obvious is the difference.

From traditional BA staff, looking at the usual suspect forums, it’s (predictably) not been so good. From the media, ditto: the only stories we know of concerning mixed fleet are one about a pilot getting an FA up the duff, and BA’s threat to end routes due to raucous behavior (which seems odd, seeing as the behavior doesn't sound much worse than stuff we've heard about other FAs). According to a member of traditional cabin crew BA insider,

They pilfer champagne from the aircraft to drink in the crew hotels because buying their own drinks in a five-star hotel is too expensive. Then they run amok, holding wild room parties and going topless in the pool.

Where do they fly?
Originally, we had a hunch that they’d been put on Virgin Atlantic routes to sex up BA’s service. The couple of cabin crew we’ve since talked to, though, says that’s not the case, and that the routes they’re on have been chosen because they’re the most profitable. According to the mixed fleet recruitment website, current routes are Tokyo Haneda, Las Vegas, St Petersburg, Denver, Nairobi, Prague, Pisa, Mauritius, Manchester, Atlanta, Kiev, Amsterdam, Luanda, San Diego and Budapest.

However, we also know that Chicago and Boston are mixed fleet, and that others are in the pipeline. According to this recent thread, Abuja, Phoenix, Accra, Rio, Paris Orly, Lisbon, Hamburg, Kiev, Lyon and Toulouse round up the current tally. Oh, and they're based at Heathrow.

How can I recognize them?
As the lovely Hannah (who we randomly had working our initial Vegas flight as well as our inbound Budapest run) is modeling, women wear hats (so retro!). Oh, and the real test – if they’re anything like the crews we’ve been carefully monitoring on the last four flights, they’ll interact as if they actually like each other.

What should I say to them?
If your experience of them is anything like ours, we suggest: “Mixed fleet, you are a long-needed breath of fresh air for British Airways, a credit to your company and your country. We salute you.”

Had a positive/negative experience of mixed fleet? Drop your thoughts in comments below!

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Are these 2 articles sponsored by BA???

I fly frequently with BA to Lisbon, Manchester, Glasgow, New York & Atlanta & am Gold level Executive Club. I'n now actively looking for alternatives on all but the Glasgow & New York flights - I thought I'd give these new crew a year to let them settle in, but no improvement - they still lack finesse (I don't want to be served my drinks with the glass held by the base rather than the rim!), too much orange make up worn by both male & female crew....the list goes on! BA have got what they paid for here - I flew to Glasgow yesterday on the 0830 Shuttle & the 5 crew on board (all in their 30s-50s) were completely at ease with their passengers & served full breakfast to a full airbus321 with style, smiles & grace, which 5 new crew failed to do on my Lisbon flight earlier in the week with half the number of passengers. It's well known in business circles in Georgia that the Atlanta flight was transferred back from the new Mix Fleet to the existing crew as a major Atlanta based multinational was pulling their corporate contract with BA, due to falling customer service levels experienced on Mix fleet flights.....

Mixed Fleet are wonderful! Keep up the good work!

Following on from Fenella's comment, the glass is held by the base because it is far more hygienic and forms a higher service standard to which they are taught. I too, am a frequent traveller with BA and have only ever had fantastic service with Mixed Fleet, who I've found to be attentive, warm, personable, helpful and enthusiastic. When you take the time to speak with the attendants, many have come from highly skilled backgrounds and have degrees or have worked at the world's top hotels, so I have found from my experience, certainly did not lack finesse. They enjoy the job, enjoy being with each other and have an enthusiasm for working with so many different people, which is fantastic to see as a customer, and is far more welcoming than the service I have received on other airlines and other fleets at BA. From speaking with friends who have connections at BA, mixed fleet are vastly outperforming other fleets, which is why they are expanding so rapidly. I certainly will continue to fly on mixed fleet routes, they are a breath of fresh air!

@fenella

Can we say something nice every so often? No, BA didn't sponsor the stories or the travel or even know Julia was flying. She pays for & frequently travels BA on her own, and reports the good with the bad.

Journos on a freebie??

It's the Mix fleet crew who seem to hold the glass by the rim...I always observe the more professional existing crew hold glasses properly. June004..I spent just over £260k on my own business travel & the only crew who have been consistent are the existing cabin staff recruited when standards were higher.

@fenella

No freebies at all here, Fenella. Sorry. Just honest opinions. Please see early comment explaining that julia's travel is all her own, done as a normal traveler. Thanks.

no freebies

@fenella - just to clarify, I've never had a freebie from BA in my life. they're the airline I've flown the most with (in all classes, but the majority in economy), the airline I've been most exasperated with and, after a disastrous Florence flight in October, the airline I swore never to fly with again. As I said in both articles, flying mixed fleet was an unbelievably different experience on both routes, and because I always write about my bad experiences, I wanted to write good news as well. As you'll see from the first piece, I didn't even know what mixed fleet was until the crew explained it to me. I just noticed that it was a very, very different experience from usual. BA don't know my name, don't know where I fly to, and never give me any freebies. Added to which, I never ask them for anything. Just a normal passenger reporting what I see.

florence^^

oh and before someone corrects me - the flight to florence (with meridiana) wasn't disastrous - it was the series of cockups that came through booking it with BA that was disastrous. after some appalling customer service, I resolved that I wouldn't book again and my Vegas flight would be my last with BA.

Disappointing

I am saddened at the need to constantly pit these two fleets against each other. Both are professional and I believe offer the same exceptional standards that BA is synonymous for. It is true that generally the crew on mixed fleet are younger and therefore may come across as keen, enthusiastic and fresh. However the worldwide and eurofleet teams have years of experience and offer a slick and highly professional service. I find it a great shame that these fleets are unable to work together, not by their choice so I have been informed. Surprisingly despite what is said, written or inferred, apart from a few stray elements (perhaps masquerading as business travelers?) there is great affection and respect between fleets, mixed fleet for the enthusiasm in which they do their job, despite the workload and pay they receive, and for the knowledge and sheer professionalism that worldwide and eurofleet are renown for. If the people at the top would somehow find a way of merging these fleets and utilising the skills they have instead of pitting them against each other then a formidable front line crew they would have... unity.

the new fleets is ruining the BA brand

I am a gold card holder with BA flying often in First and the things
that happend to my since these Mc Donlads style servants took over the Atlanta - Heathrow route was unbelievable(well actualy now it went back to the profesinal guys)because lets say, a big coperate acount was to be lost by BA if the wouldnt have done so.hear is my story on that particular flight.first after take off the Service manager was greeting the First Class passengers with high fives.then before my diner i was noticing that the wine was not coresponding with the winelist and when i asked the FA why,she just said "is shit isnt it luv "i couldnt believe what i just heard.this guys never worked in a posh restaurant or have the experience and if you pay serious money you want at least a bit of respect and a profesional cultivated service. i never had a impresion what there are doing and if i read the top article about the flight to Vegas i wonder if its not writen by some BA manager because it is so far form the truth.

I totaly agree with you

And lets not forget the safety aspect on a shorthaul flight a friend of mine was on meeting in hamburg they played the safety video after we took of i mean no one really pays attention but still it didnt look profesional at all.

yep i agree

if you pay peanuts you get monkeys..

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