Jaunted

full body scanners

just my opinion - but i'm all for it. i get the concern but i would rather be humbled by the TSA staff than blown to smithereens up in the sky by some wing-nut. it's just the nature of the beast in our times unfortunately. but a small price to pay in the long run to ensure we get to our destinations safely.

Another layer of security theatre.

"The reason there are few attempts to blow up airplanes is not because we have successfully restricted people from blowing up airplanes. It's because not many people want to blow up airplanes." - from Squashed

somewhat against it ..

personally while I understand the safety and security its supposed to offer, I think it IS a bit revealing and I for one will refuse the scan. While I doubt there are really that many pedophiles working as TSA's hoping to scan kids .. I do think there are LOTS of dirty minded men who will get their kicks all day long looking at female after female. You KNOW they are going to gossip about it later on their break.

Much worse than those pix show

Those are very small, very low-res images of what is actually involved.  This is a much more realistic version of what is actually being seen: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=972_1262283908.

The scanners do not detect weapons nor explosives.  There are several MUCH less invasive ways to do that.  And since weapons and explosives are what the security is supposed to be about it only makes sense that the systems pursued are focused on those.

nothing to worry about

I walked through one of the trial versions of these a few months ago at a terminal in RDU (raleigh durham NC) airport. The screener who sees the image isn't in the room, so they cannot actually see you; all they do is sit on a computer and look at grey/blue computer models of thousands of people pass through every day... no different than looking at mannequins really. The machines are freakishly accurate, I had a standard sized tube of chap stick in my right jean pocket and they asked if I was carrying a tube of something in my right pocket. With the ceramic knives and plastic guns on the market these days, I'm all for it.

Less stripping

Full body scanners are less intrusive than being required to take off shoes and belts. I'd rather have the body scan than having to strip.

Wow

Thats some pretty cool stuff dude. I mean really. RT www.total-anonymity.at.tc

Yeah Right

I would rather be stripped searched then blasted with radiation every time i get on a plane. What the heck are people thinking? It is a huge x-ray machine!!!!! Security lol. That machine would not even have detected the "underwear" bomb where a strip search would. As far as knives and guns ... they already have technology that detect metal. So do bit try to pull the wool over my eyes by saying the new x-ray catches guns and knives and the old technology does not. If you are uncomfortable with a strip search then you should be uncomfortable with a full body x-ray. Yes ... lets modify our RDNA every time we board a plane!

LOL

awesome, the body scanning machines will detect a switchblade..but if you hide 10 lbs of C4 in your G string it wont even see it. because its obvious you will use a switchblade to blow up a plane. People who blow up planes NEVER think C4

Health shouldn't be the issue to boo this idea

If it's about the privacy, then that's cool. But don't fool yourself about the radiation. You do way more damage carrying a cell phone all day, or driving your regular commute beside high-voltage power lines, or even living near high speed electric rail tracks -- these things do so much more damage than 20 seconds in a scanner. For those who fly every day/week: perhaps think of re-evaluating your business lifestyle. That much travel is just unnecessary dinosaur-habit in today's world (at least the vast majority of the time). Long story short, I'm down with privacy concerns, but health concerns are not an issue for the vast majority of travelers, at least considering the everyday infrastructure in which we live.

Subject line which demands filling for no reason

How about this idea - have a line of people who want to be strip searched, and have a line of people who want to be scanned. See which one is the most preferred after, say, an hour. I would rather walk from ticket desk to airplane, with a big twenty-meter long three meter tall scanning screen that shows EVERYBODY walking through it, ALL THE TIME, than have to wait in line and jump through TSA or Customs hoops. Total Recall style. I honestly don't understand why this isn't how it works already.

Couldn't care less

Do I think it'll really help stop terrorists? Not particularly. Do I care if some small set of humans get to see me naked in some weird color scheme? Nope, again, not really. If it makes the TSA happy, or makes people feel safer and streamlines travel, then let them go ahead full steam.

Will this really stop terrorists?

If someone really wants to blow up a plane, they will find ways around it. Does it scan inside your body? Drugs are smuggled in body cavities, i'm sure explosives are no different. If the 18 and under laws go into effect, then will they also send children in with explosives? I guess not if they take their PlayDoh away.

Stop the Panic on Air Security

One of the greatest minds in the security field has said it many times before. These measures are worthless because they only stop the tactics that have already been used. Check out his articles, this is the guy the NSA and CIA turn to for their answers... http://www.schneier.com/essay-304.html

Airline Security

To the bleeding hearts and "I've got my rights" groups- I'll bet if God forbid you ever did get blown up on a plane your obituary wouldn't say that you were against more airport security. Whether you fly alot or occasionally it's a no-brainer. DON'T FIGHT ADDED SECURITY!! If you think you're that important take a private plane. Personally I don't think they should limit to 18 and above. I worked in a prison for over 20 years and more than 20% of weapons, drugs and ammo found was trying to be smuggled in on youngtsters and babies.

Safety

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin.

body scanners

Do you really want some pervert tsa officer checking out naked scans of your wife and or children? I can see alot of perverts applying for tsa jobs and getting their jollies checking out the long line of child porn waiting to board the planes. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/04/new-scanners-child-porn-laws Remember those who trade their liberties for security deserve and receive neither. Statistically youre more likely to die in an avalanche than from terrorism. The govt would love you all to be so afraid that theres a terrorist under waiting in every nook and cranny so that they can continually control the population and take away more of your freedoms as we spiral downward into a tyrannical police state. I say protest these machines and boycott leisure travel until these machines are done away with.

what

carrying a cell phone is a choice. running your family through radiation chambers at the airport is not. http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/24331/ http://camtriplehelix.com/journal/issue/2/full-body-ct-scanning/pdf

bigger picture

C'mon.. most of these concerns are so petty.. someone seeing your body? we're all human beings, same parts... maybe you had an accident or surgery that makes you different.. but you shouldn't be ashamed. If you're not comfortable with yourself you should probably think about your life and how to improve it. If your main concern is the radiation... well, suck it up... we're constantly bombarded by radiation. What this produces is minimal compared to many of the electronics we constantly use.. and the sun.

The real concern is, as pointed out by David Cooper, that they (not just the government(s), but the true people in power, mainly the owners of the biggest companies) keep using fear to control people. As long as people feel "safer" they can keep on taking away our rights and people won't fight. OK, maybe this one case doesn't necessarily infringe greatly on our rights, but it's another small step in that direction. Lets face it, it's more likely to die in a plane that crashes than one that was blown up by a "terrorist". Heck, it's more likely you'll be struck by lightning than die in a terrorist airborne attack. (http://andymatic.com/your-odds-of-being-in-a-airplane-terrorist-attack/, note: I don't know the accuracy of the numbers, but I'm just trying to make a point)

Also, keep in mind the cost of these machines, who do you think pays for them? This is just more debt stacked on to this pointless "war on terror". Which the people will have to pay for in the future. Is it worth the price? look at all the different machines that have been tried and failed.

I don't even know why I've taken to trouble to write this, as "they" will stay in power, and the dumbed down sheeple will do and agree with what "they" say. I guess if one person wakes up a bit and opens up their mind after reading this it was worth the write. Believe in the true nature of men, freedom... real freedom. Peace to all.

You forgot to mention

You forgot to mention that the TSA has not allowed any full-quality images to be released.  The machines have their displays artificially degraded.  They are capable of photographic quality imagery, and in fact the actual image captured is like this.  The image is distorted and blurred after the fact in order to attempt to introduce some level of privacy.

But this is just a software setting.  With a little tweak, the machine is back to full quality images.  The TSA has not permitted the release of any of photo quality images, only the artificially distorted ones.

It's inevitable that either the quality will be turned up over time, once people have grown accustomed to exposing themselves to strangers, or that individual checkpoints will decide to alter the setting themselves for a better look.

The worst part is that it's all still security theater.  Until they're producing a colorectal image along with everything else, this doesn't alter anyone's ability to smuggle a weapon onto a plane - it only alters the location they have to store it.  A quick trip to the lav, and they're right back on target.

Nothing against added security

I've got nothing against added security.  What's going on in airports today is not security though - it's security theater.  A lot of attempted illusion at better security without actually accomplishing anything.  

Recently a guy just walked right into Newark's secure zone, and they still have no idea who it was or why.  

Full body scanners would not have identified the underpants bomber's payload if it's stored under his testicles, let alone if he stored it in a balloon in his rectum.  

Worst yet, stick a bag in checked luggage with an explosive device that you can activate with a two-way radio.  Simple to produce, almost impossible to detect.

The amount of time and money spent on meaningless inconveniences that offer nothing in the way of improved security but sacrifice plenty in terms of lost liberty is staggering.

Nothing will ever come of this

how many bombs have been found in people's water bottles and shoes, exactly?

Why the blurry face?

In the first picture there, why's her face twice as blurry as the rest? Photoshopped it before publishing? Why? Privacy concerns? Why? .. there shouldn't be .. a user shouldn't be identifiable via this method.

Great idea...

This is a great idea and all but will all airports around the world use this? Isn't TSA and all these guidelines just for the US airports? What if smaller 3rd world countries can't afford these types of technologies. Wouldn't it be very easy for a terrorist to hop on a flight from one of those smaller airports? (ex: Nigerian terrorist) Maybe I am missing the point here.

blurry face

The software of full-body scanners blurs the faces of the passengers; we didn't do any photoshopping to it. For more on what gets blurred and what doesn't, see Full-Body Scanners 101: The Two Types and How They Work

Scanner may harm your skin

I think such scanners may be harmful for our skin. I am not sure. However, I am skeptical about this as anything that's not natural does a little harm to our body (freaking side effects). These may not be observed immediately after a scan it may take a few generations to reflect changes may be in genes or something. However, i hate it for this reason. I don't even like metal detectors. I wouldn't mind getting frisked.

ugh..

Speaking as a female who experiences molestation every single time I have been through an airport in recent years, I find it funny that only males are ok with this for the most part. This simply does not apply to you; but instead to all the "random" 20-30 year old females that will be pulled aside for this test. I assure you that being fondled (no matter what title you put on it, it is in fact being fondled), and then being forced to expose your naked body to who knows how many people in the observation room, is in every single sense a violation of our rights. You know they have gone past the bounds of what they are not only allowed to do, but what is decent to do. So now, we have to be subject to this and get naked for them. It isnt about how someone feels about being naked, (i am extremely pro nudity) it`s about having the choice of for whom and where you choose to expose your body. I cannot understand how doing this to upstanding citizens who have never done anything wrong in the name of public welfare is not itself criminal. I won`t even get into why this is 100% ridiculous from the standpoint of actually deterring or stopping a terrorist that wants to blow up a plane. The bottom line is... they have won. They have taken the lives they wanted to. They have scared the entire world to the point of literally removing basic human rights from nearly every country on earth. They have achieved every single goal terrorism strives to achieve.

Jazmine, you are so correct

And the images can be inverted showing amazing detail. I can see the little technocrat pervert sitting alone in a backroom looking at airline passenger genitalia all day. There is a reason these scanners violate EU Child Pornography laws. Only a complete fool would believe that these images will not be misused, or will not be saved, and will not ultimately be data based with other planned biometric I.D. This is about the incremental stripping of all freedom, human dignity, and basic human rights. This is being used as a psychological weapon on the citizenry, not as a weapon in fighting, or preventing terrorism.

Airport Full Body Scan

I'm wondering what people will say when they find out that the negative image from a scan is easily converted to a naked picture like I found at http://newscastdaily.com/technology/negative-image-of-airport-security-body-scan

re-evaluating....

Wow, after seeing that last link I changed my mind about the privacy... This definitely infringes greatly on privacy... However, if the technology were able to be reduced in size... I'd love to get the mythical "see through clothes" goggles!! hahaha

The NWO is full of perverts, what do we expect?

The NWO likes to empower perverts and homosexuals to do things like this. Why do you think Barack H Obama has appointed sodomites to be our "safe school czar" and as our head of the Department of Homeland Security? Decent family orientated folk don't agree with this kind of filth. That's why we have Barney Frank, Kevin Jennings, Janet Neplitano, John Holdren, Nancy Pelosi, etc making the decisions for the most important aspects of our country! They want to break up the strong Husband + Wife family units and promote families built out of homosexuals who adopt children stolen via CPS. God will likely allow the USA to fail soon because the USA has too much FILTH running it!

The "Terror" Industry & Body Scans

The fact is that the most lucrative growth industry of these modern times is the "terror" business. Scores of companies greedy for government contracts are churning out "Big Brother Police State" technology at a frenetic pace. And while these new "full-body-porno" scanners utilized by the TSA "nuke-nazis" might humiliate many Americans (at least those who have never posed nude for Playboy or Playgirl), that's not even the main issue, IMHO. The main concern is the radiation.

Isn't it illegal to expose people to radiation without medical justification? How is the government allowed to irradiate us "willy-nilly" at airports? What about the deleterious effects on women in their first trimester of pregnancy, when the risks of the baby developing genetic abnormalities (caused by radiation damaging the DNA) are the highest?

Dr. John W. Gofman, an authority on the health effects of radiation, concluded that there is NO SAFE DOSE-LEVEL of radiation, since it is equivalent to dropping "grenades and small bombs" on human cells.

Exposure to radiation is dangerous, whether we are talking about typical ionizing radiation or the terahertz radiation used in many full-body scanners.

IMHO, these airport scanners should be banned. Radiation damages the DNA in your cells and much more. It accumulates in the body during one's lifetime and when it reaches a certain level, cancer is nearly certain.

Ty Bollinger
http://www.CancerTruth.net

New TSA Procedure

Here is a preliminary look at the new TSA screening procedure. http://www.webdonuts.com/2010/01/tsa/

Fine with me

I would not mind at all. The other day I went to a random doctor who happened to be a male ( I am female), because I was constipated for many days. He not only striped me but also put his finger up my a**. I guess getting blown up in mid air is a bigger problem than being constipated to bear with this invasion of privacy.

It's Not Worth It

All I can say is that I once loved flying but now I doubt I will ever fly again. It's just not worth it anymore.

FULL BODY SCANNERS

If the people at the airports are desperate to have a look at my arse or my fanny or my tits, we should make them sign a waiver so that our "bits" don't end up on You Tube or Facebook etc. There's bound to be one or two bastards who will try and do this.

This is just sick.

There is so much room for abuse with the full body scan, that a new form of terrorism can blossom from this. Think about it, there will be someone who will utilize this inappropiately as with anything that humans come up with- someone's whole life could be shattered through just one slip up of security, resulting in a deranged pervert making off with a higher resolution picture of a passenger's body. Boom. In one day their nakedness is on google, myspace, facebook. Colleagues, the neighborhood, everyone that he/she ecounters will make a mockery of them. There are many answers in fighting terrorism and preserving our freedom- this is not the solution and is literally a great big shit on our rights.

This isn't about security.

Sorry to bust your bubble but these new machines have nothing to do with security. It's all about money and the TSA spending money on these machines.

My mother would not do so?

Assalamu 'Alaikum sister Ghazala Fine with me I would not mind at all. The other day I went to a random doctor who happened to be a male ( I am female), because I was constipated for many days. He not only striped me but also put his finger up my a**. I guess getting blown up in mid air is a bigger problem than being constipated to bear with this invasion of privacy. My Niqab/Burka-wearing,Quran-abiding, Hayaa-conscious zoologist mother would never do so.And even if she was examined by a female doctor, she would not describe the details in public like this. In fact, there are other possible ways in these days of technological innovation to detect explosives than defiling the Satr of Muslims(the parts of body that must be covered as prescribed by our Nabee(sall Allaahu alaihi wasallam) ). neorient@gmail.com

Wake up

I guess it will be okay to do their next step to put finger in your ass and put these brand new brain scanners which supposedly read your thoughts and decide who is terrorist and who is not. Wake up all of you sheep's before it is to late. Don't you see their goal? Don't you see they are closing in slowly but surely and all because of sheep's who are scared. You will die one day or another anyway. Do not sell your soul and truth because your fears. Ohhh just wake uuuuupppppppp.

Lie of inverted photos, really they are coloured

he full body scanners that President Obama last night authorized to be rolled out in airports across the country at a cost of over $1 billion dollars not only produce detailed pictures of your genitals, but once inverted some of those images also display your naked body in full living color. And you don't need to be a graphics wizard using a $600 software suite like Photoshop to pull off the trick - inverting a photo is a simple process that takes one click and is an option available even in the most basic image editing software. We were sent examples of the process by readers and then tested it for ourselves to confirm that simply inverting some of the pictures produced by the body scanners creates a near-perfect replica of a naked body in full color. (SOURCE OF IMAGE). http://www.prisonplanet.com/inverted-body-scanner-image-shows-naked-body-in-full-living-color.html

scan

i dont understand how people can be against this. any day id choose scans over being blown up. anyone who refuses should be labled a terrorist and not allowed to travel

I'm a pilot, Safty above Privacy

Im glad to see some of you agree with the body scan.

For the rest of you, know this. As a pilot I can tell you that aviation, in all aspects is about traveling in safty. safty is ALWAYS the main concern.

We dont care about your stupid claims of invasion of privacy. we could seriously care less. For us, if it means even the slightest bit of extra safty, its ok with us.

So the bottom of line is this. You don't have to fly on comercial airlines if you dont want to. If you do, then you just have to deal with the precautions we take to keep our planes and passengers safe.

Religous objection?

All I can say about this is that I hope there are exceptions made for those of us with modesty concerns for religous reasons. I would be perfectly fine with a female security attendant patting me down or whatever is neccessary, or even if there was a way for ONLY a female to see my scan. But I would not be okay AT ALL with males seeing my scan. For religous reasons my girls and I all wear skirts and shirts that cover all of our torso and chest, for the modesty aspect. Being scanned and having everything shown, sexy picture or not, would not be something I could do in good conscience. As long as they have alternatives to the scan available for anyone who does not want to be exposed I don't see anything wrong with the scans. But to make them mandatory I think is wrong.