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Fly-Be Or Not To Fly-Be, We Ask Pilots

December 19, 2008 at 9:30 AM | by amandak | 3 Comments

Long-serving British low cost carrier Flybe seems to be doing OK in these tricky times. They're talking just as positively as Ryanair and have even been bold enough to add a new route from Gatwick to Torquay.

But. There's always a "but." Their pilots are getting a bad rap all because a flight this week from London to Paris was forced to turn around and head home again because the pilot was underqualified to land in foggy conditions.

We accept Flybe's explanation that the experienced pilot had just changed aircraft and hadn't done all the training levels to get the right badges. But he apparently announced to the passengers that he was just a Level 5 pilot and Charles de Gaulle wanted a Level 2.

Is it just us, or is there a huge difference between Level 5 and Level 2? On our next budget flight we might be asking to see the pilot's license before we commit to buckling our seat belt.

Related Stories:
· Flybe Offers Free Return Tickets [Cheap Flights]
· Rules Stopped Pilot's Fog Landing [BBC]
· Flybe coverage [Jaunted]

[Photo: mattingham]

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  1. cjephcott

    Jaunted Member

    Cat II qualifications

    Hi there, I don't know where this pap about a level 5 pilot has come from. Basically when you fly the aircraft, there are 2 levels of qualification on the Dash 8 - you are either Cat 1 or Cat 2. Cat 2 basically means that you can fly the aircraft down to a decision altitude of 100 feet above the ground and with 300m visibility. Cat 1 generally means 200 feet above the ground with 550m visibility. Due to the nature of the entire Cat 2 training, it is natural that a level of experience is required. In this company, it is 50 sectors past your line check, provided that you have done the required work in the simulator, and complete 3 practice Cat 2 approaches during your line training. This is not an abnormal situation - it is estimated that there are quite a few pilots out there in various airlines who are not All Weather OPs qualified due to various reasons. In view of the nature, neither pilot did anything wrong and acted to the best of their ability under a difficult circumstance. Unfortunately, this is getting misreported everywhere. The facts of the matter: 1/ The First Officer was not Cat 2 qualified despite undertaking the simulator training. 2/ The pilots with FlyBE are exceptionally well qualified and remain some of the best within the industry 3/ At no point was sfety jeopardised 4/ The decision to divert back to a suitable airfield, although it will attract critics, was the right one. 5/ You have to be qualified in order to fly any aircraft to the level that we do. Not sure if this clarifies any points at all, but feel free to drop me a line should you have anymore. Cheers, A FlyBE F/O
    December 19, 2008 at 7:31 PM
  1. amandak

    Jaunted Member

    Ah!

    Thanks for the info. Actually we agree that we'd rather he turned back, it does all make sense ... lots of reports mentioned the level 5 thing - "the captain said, 'Unfortunately I'm not qualified to land the plane in Paris. They are asking for a level two qualification and I only have a level five. We'll have to fly back." - but it sounds like they got it wrong.
    December 19, 2008 at 9:54 PM
  1. andz23

    Jaunted Member

    where do you get your info from?

    Seriously! once again I found a flaw in your postings.. the flight was from Cardiff to Paris... London has nothing to do with it!. I don't want to sound like an angry douche, but whenever you post something about the UK or involving someone from the UK you seem to make stuff up!
    December 21, 2008 at 3:59 PM

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